Talk:Violent Thunder Evil Demon, Tyrant Demon/@comment-25600444-20170918151919/@comment-5208312-20170918154639

For the new build that focuses more on Determinator I'd use this and side Khan (because honestly Determinator and this can deal with Athora) and ignore Asura. Now if you plan to keep Ogar as your main then Asura is probably the better choice, but Determinator's immortallity and 7k power are just too good to pass.