Talk:Overturn Armordragon, Drum Bunker Dragon/@comment-25962426-20180328072511/@comment-34544409-20180328153408

Still not full proof. Because, if it's Aldo Athora then the opponent would just use Overturn. If it's any other Athora then the opponent can just use Prism Order after Athora is destroyed. Also the item thing is important, because most items used have an ability that make it so that the center monster's abilities can't be nullified, meaning they will still have soulguard and the ability to nullify effect damage (so damage from impact card or penetrate won't effect them)