Talk:Gathering of the Armed Dragons/@comment-13526439-20150610111637/@comment-25600444-20150610155704

Actually JCThunder, you don't need Defence on the card with Counterattack to initiate it.

If the current wording of it is to be held true, literally the only factors towards Counterattack working are the attacker's Defence and the target's Power. The target's Defence holds no bearing on whether it works.

Hence, Items that have Counterattack have immense value due to them being unable to be destroyed after an attack and that's the reason why Bushi is careful not to make Dragoenergy cards work for Items (outside of Hero World) by including the "monster" clause.

We can debate whether an Item with no Defence Value gains Defence via such cards but Counterattack, in of itself, does not need Defence on both parties to initiate.