Talk:Blaster Tornado, Roaring Red Dragon Lord/@comment-18358637-20141110121328/@comment-11372432-20141110232150

People determine pluses and minuses in different ways. Some say a damage is a damage, no matter where or what kind, but effect damage from a source other than penetrate is better because it is harder to stop and is reflected as such in a lot of cards. If you see cards like that, then Gargantua is actually a plus, but yes, I agree that finisher cards like that are moot when doing this stuff as you would, in theory, win anyways, regardless of what is gained or lost. Besides, even if that wasn't the case and you ignored the fact that you finish the game with it, it would at least be a wash, seeing as trading a card for immunity to reduction or negation seems worth it IMO.