Talk:Lamenting Black Steel, Balomdahl/@comment-26021817-20150806130250/@comment-24971427-20150806141912

First of all, a Counterattack is an ability, not an attack. It says

[Counterattack] (If this monster is still on the field after an attack, choose a monster that attacked with defense less than or equal to this monster's power, and destroy it.)

It chooses a monster to be destroyed. It doesn't attack the monster.

Second, since its not an attack, Penetrate won't activate, cause it says.

[Penetrate] (If this card attacks and destroys your opponent's monster in the center, this card deals damage equal to its critical to your opponent.)

It didn't attack, counterattack just destroys the monster. Not attack it. You're better off running Black Dragon, Maveltaker.

This card can do 4 damages, sure. Even if there was a monster in the center, but a simple Art of Body Replacement could block the entire attack. Against worlds that don't have Solomon Shield's clones? Please, like they're gonna call monsters to the center? Even if they did, cards like Oswira Gard is practically designed to troll cards like this. Gonna penetrate the center? Nope, I just put the monster to the drop zone. You just wasted one attack, cause you made this card attack the monster in the center, and now the monster is gone, you don't have an attack target, but you already used an attack. Oh look, Pillar of Fire! is also a thing. Goodbye to that cruddy 5000 Defense that won't last a turn.

Maveltaker on the other hand, causes 4 direct damage if there isn't a monster in your opponent's center. Even with a shield, this card can still Double Attack for another 2 damage. Or clear the field instead of always being forced to attack the center for the most use. Also, hey, field clearing is good. With its 8000 Defense, and this card, it guarantees it'll last more than just a turn.