Talk:Ancient World/@comment-6102960-20141017172754

Okay, so...after testing a couple of times over, while letting any Ancient World deck START with their ace (Ladis, Sieger, or Abend if you want to be that guy.), and in Sieger's case, 2 Dragon Lords, to see how well they actually fare against "Shadow Dive" based decks....

Yeah, Shadow Dive/Death decks are going to screw Ancient World over on such a high level, they need to instead focus on using all their Size 1 and 2 monsters, WHICH YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.

As explained in the anime, Shadow Dive can completely shut off Sieger, as he can't evolve, and it also makes Dragon Outlaw and Wrath Trigger useless...it's essentially taking away 1/5 to 1/3 of the deck for gauge fodder. With 10-15 cards stripped to useless, how well are you going to fare here? Yeah, thought so... Agosbruch and Gatastol are not helping either...

While with Wild Dragons, you can fare much better by using the monsters which are not Size 3. But by doing so, you lose Glacies (for Ladis), and most of the Wild Dragons don't have much defense. And Abend can just attack once, so DDW's 3 Shields and Stigma stops it...as well as anything else. Herp Derp.

And of course, Nightmare Despair.

I'm not saying it is impossible to win....but this is an uphill battle that shouldn't be this steep...