Talk:Determination of the Fist Fighter, Grapple Soul/@comment-4873205-20150513014523/@comment-11372432-20150513022815

It's like people magically forget how counter works when it comes to these new impacts. Counter on impacts have been a thing since set 2 with Lethal Formation people! You can't even say these are the first ones played from hand, since Distortion and White Diety also do it like that.